Mar 24, 2007 8:41 PM
Ishmael:Amanda "The Shankster" Shanks mentioned you lent her "What the Bleep Do We Know!?" I feel like it is my moral obligation to inform you that that movie is a bunch of bull shit. The movie is based on teachings of this woman JZ Knight. Knight says that on February the seventh 1977, an entity called Ramtha, The Enlightened One, appeared to her and her husband in the kitchen of her Tacoma, Washington trailer. Ramtha was supposed to have defeated the Atlanteans and then to have led an army of over 2.5 million across the continents, conquering 2/3 of the known world. Two of the three directors of the film are admitted students of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment. In Knight vs. Knight, 1992-1995, Jeff Knight her husband alleged that he lost years of his life by postponing modern medical treatment for his HIV infection, due to advice from his wife that Ramtha could heal him — he died before he could appeal the court's decision against him.
JZ Knight is interviewed frequently in the movie and all the big-wigs involved in the making of the film are members of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment.
The movie is also full of pseudoscience fiction. Quantum mechanics deals with small systems, and quantum effects (especially Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle) are applicable only to matter on the scale of the de Broglie Wavelength. The movie exploits these effects by falsely implying that they (especially a wavefunction associated with an object and probability calculations concerning this object) are applicable to everyday objects like basketballs, humans, or fountains. And that water crystal stuff is complete BS http:
I mean don't get me wrong, it doesn't bother me if people make up their own crazy religion based on fictional history (like the mormons), and I don't care if these people exploit people for money (like all religions) it just bothers me when they try to twist and use science to back them up.
Mar 25, 2007 5:02 PM
ovulayia:hey thanks for the heads up, I appreciate you clearing up bias I wasn't aware of. I think the thing I liked most about the movie wasn't entirely it's spiritual to science connections but more so it's very simple explanations of quarks, chaos, and the laws on the subatomic level of our universe. Naturally the examples they give are non-applicable to everyday objects, I think the point was just that, to make an example to a public audience that was easier to comprehend than trying to explain more complex examples. It isn’t right though to dishonor the original principles of what they are trying to represent. Some of it I admit was pretty cheesy, and there were parts of it I didn't like at all but I appreciate the determination of some people willing to try and find universal truths that are evident in both the spiritual and scientific communities, but not at the expense of misguiding the public with tainted information.
Mar 27, 2007 8:39 PM
Ishmael:Well I also admire search for the truth (though I don't believe in spirituality). It just really pisses me off when people try to deceive me. If you want simple explanations of the actual science you can check out this or this
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